I Rant About Kyrie Irving And The Brooklyn Nets For Over 11 Minutes

I Rant About Kyrie Irving And The Brooklyn Nets For Over 11 Minutes

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Welcome back everybody, in today’s video I have a few thoughts about Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets. Irving hasn’t played for the team since mid November as he has been rehabbing a shoulder injury… and the team initially played much better in his absence. This led to this idea – are the Nets better without Kyrie Irving? – and it’s one that I have been against all season. So in this video I give my reasons for why that simply isn’t true, and why it’s frustrating that people continue to argue that having Kyrie Irving on your team is a bad thing.

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    i totally agree , its so disgusting when they always blame kyrie for anything bad happened , he is an all nba 2nd team last year ffs and well deserved , even though i am a celtics fan but kyrie was not the only issue on the team , yes off the court he was a coward and all but on the court he was the 2nd best pg in the league and an mvp candidate and did everything he can , and now they also blame him on the nets for no fucking reason even when they are 3-10 for last 13 games i think without kyrie , this is sick!

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    Tucker, I respectfully disagree with your assessment here. Yes, I do think it can be intellectually lazy to simply say that removing Kyrie makes you automatically a better team. But when you look at the numbers closer, it does often look that way. The Nets as were the Celtics are more efficient when he isn't on the floor. I think there's a definite correlation between his play style and personality and with team outcomes. The Celtics were better without him last year and did make an eastern conf finals run without him, the Cavs got to the Finals without him AFTER turning the roster over twice, and the Nets in actuality have played better without him. Kyrie really needs to take a hard look in the mirror and adjust his play style slightly to where he's less ball dominant and more conducive to team play. A big part of his success in CLE was that he didn't have to worry about doing anything else but play his game and LeBron took care of everything else. I understand where you're coming from but you're being a bit too apologetic of Kyrie here IMO.

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    The Celtics are better this year because their young guys are playing closer to their ceilings, and because (when he's healthy), Hayward is playing more like the guy they signed. I do think Walker is a better fit, both as a personality and as a player. I think Irving's issue is that he's an alpha level talent but needs someone with a bigger personality (like Lebron in Cleveland) to keep him calm and engaged.

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    Anyone saying the Nets are better without Kyrie is simply wrong. As of January 8, the Nets must acquire an inexpensive serviceable PG to run the 2nd unit… someone like an Ish Smith from Washington

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    Uh… the Nets were "better off" with a 23 year old All-Star point guard who led them to the playoffs last year. Rather than a 28 year old with more mileage than a fucking astronaut.

    But we needed to sell out our multi-year rebuild to appease Durant… who isn't even going to FUCKING PLAY THIS YEAR.

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    Here's the thing that NO ONE ever brings up about the whole Boston not being on Kyrie's trade list thing

    IT just came off a season coming 5th in MVP voting and he plays the same position.

    No one was gonna guess one was actually gonna get traded for the other

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    Im starting to get confused as to who this channel is for? It’s Sporting Logically but it’s turned into your arguing with team fan twitter accounts that just spew BS. Any logical person understood the nuance the Kyrie’s time in Boston so I guess I’m confused as to who you’re ranting at?

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    So basically they had a 9-3 stretch followed by being one of the worst teams in the league at 3-10. The media and fans have done nothing but bully Kyrie to the point where he might want to retire early from what he loves to do, which he’s been open to before. The Celtics didn’t deserve him, he never wanted to be there anyway but they expected him to stay long-term? They’re taking a good dose of something good up in Boston. They can enjoy Kemba but something tells me Kemba doesn’t have that inner “Kobe-like” fire to get it done when it matters most like Kyrie. Kemba cares about his image too much, Kyrie is like Kobe and doesn’t care.

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    It’s important to understand that Kyrie Irving is an All-Star level player but not a superstar/MVP candidate level player. He’s best suited as the second best player if you want to win a title. The Nets and Celtics weren’t drastically worse without him because he isn’t a superstar.

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    If Kyrie was willing to take less shots and play a mentor role, Boston could've been more amazing then they are right now. If Kyrie was willing to average 21pts and 5a, basically Kemba Walker, celtics would have a higher ceiling.

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    There’s no question that he makes every teams on court production better… the problem is that he’s terrible for team chemistry with his attitude and public statements. I don’t believe he will ever have great playoff success again because of this. You have to play as a team to win a chip and you can’t do that when your best player is moping around bringing down the energy of the role players.

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    I think everybody knows that the real test of the Nets is gonna be next season with KD and Kyrie hopefully both healthy. Kyrie is a good player but with KD that will theoretically translate into winning more games (like the Lebron pair-up). This year was never supposed to be very good. It is a very valuable year in terms of developing the depth in the roster, though

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    I don't think Kyrie was THE problem with the Celtics, but he was certainly the biggest problem, and a lot of the other problems stemmed from him. Most of it is that Brad Stevens couldn't figure out how to get Tatum and Brown significant experience without pissing off Irving, so all the development of young guys was pretty much put on the back burner. He also was a really bad presence for our locker room, because he was expected to be a leader, and he just wasn't. The younger players looked up to him for leadership, and he was just bad at that. I think he'll be better with the Nets next year when he's not the best player on the team, and not looked to for that leadership, because he's not a strong leader. Kemba has made the Celtics so much better because he's really willing to give up the ball and some control for his teammates to thrive, and is an amazing leader. Last year, if Tatum had an off night, Kyrie was saying "stop shooting, give me the ball." This year, if he's having an off night, Kemba's telling him to keep shooting. At the end of games, Kemba's telling Brown and Tatum to take the last shot where Kyrie would get mad if they didn't let him take the last shot. The problem isn't that "Kyrie=bad," the problem is that Kyrie is not a leader. If the Nets can lock down some veteran players to serve as leaders, I think they'll be a top 3 or top 4 seed next year for sure.

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    The logic of kyrie is not winning player is not true. What people seem to forget is that kyrie 1st year a celtics they were 17-2 after Hayward went down. He lead them to the 2nd in the east. It's not Bias is facts I agree with you, the Boston salty fans will ignore what he don't for them, but kyrie didn't create all of Boston problems last season. The celtics will leave in the 2nd round again even with Kemba. Then what will the narrative be, the media is fake and hate kyrie so I'm sure they ignore that as well.

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    Here’s the thing, if you watched and followed the season, Kyrie’s body language and post game interviews made it clear that he was extremely egotistical and just being selfish. Always talking about the younger players needing to understand their roles, etc etc. I forgot which game it was, but when Kyrie got mad at Hayward for passing to Tatum who took the game winning shot on a great look when it was supposed to go to Kyrie is just unacceptable. This man was showing his frustration on live television at Hayward and trying to depict him as the guy in the wrong. The fact that Kyrie didn’t even bother to show up to Game 7 in the ECF to support his team is blasphemous. Although I agree with you that Kyrie wasn’t the only problem, he was definitely the MAIN problem. Tatum and Brown were so restricted alongside Kyrie because Kyrie wanted to take 30+ shots a game and 38+ minutes a game because he thought that was the best approach to a winning offense. It’s hard to gather a rhythm and stay consistent for Tatum and Brown when you’re not getting a whole ton of shots/touches and expected to go out there and make every open look when Kyrie passes you the ball, it’s exactly like the Lebron system except arguably worse. So many possessions were just Kyrie dribbling the ball taking up 20 seconds of the shot clock trying to score and dribble. On top of all that, there were so many times whenever Kyrie would get blown by on defense this man would turn around and just yell at the team. The thing is Kyrie was expecting guys like Brown and Tatum to play under his wing as role players when in reality they showed they were capable of so much more in the ECF and Kyrie wasn’t content with that which resulted in the disaster of last season. Also, Exactly why both Tatum and Brown are having breakout years. I don’t think all the blame should go onto Kyrie though because it comes down to Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge to manage egos, playing time, players, etc. Just my thoughts from watching a ton of Celtics games…

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    Love your videos dude, but I gotta be honest here. As a knicks fan, I love the current Nets struggle lol. I also don’t think him coming back healthy with KD next season will make much of a difference come playoffs. Bucks, Celtics, Heat, Indy and Philly are all better in terms of bench depth and that matters come games 4-7 of a series.

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    They've lost seven straight. Seems like the lack of elite talent is finally catching up to them. That's the danger of overreacting to a small sample. Sometimes teams can play better when their star initially goes out. Even Washington has recently had a few impressive wins without Beal but I don't see anyone claiming they're better without him.

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    This is my favorite video of yours. Admittedly, I'm a Kyrie Stan but I've been saying these things for months. People never bring up 2018 and the 17-game win streak when they talk about Kyrie in Boston. They also never bring up how bad Hayward was, or Rozier chafing at his reduced role. Or Tatum's regression in terms of shot selection. They act like they know what went on in that locker room, and in reality they know nothing.

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    The other part I dislike is people act like Kyrie is this "selfish" player who's not "pass first" and that's why it "hurts the team." Bro, Kyrie has a higher assist rate than Dinwiddie, Kemba, Giannis, Lillard, Westbrook, Chris Paul, and Lowry. No one's looking at those guys and talking about how the ball doesn't move when they're on the court.

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    The things you said about Boston roster changing doesn't support your point. You are basically saying they have less talent so of course they gonna be better 😂. I think you lost the logic here.

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    I agree with you alot Tucker…But this one..Kyrie is a disease for a team..If you trow your teammates under the buss, you are legit a disease for the organisation. The reason Tatum and Brown are going strong now, is simply because this NUT was there. He is completly insane, has the most idiotic ideas a grown ass man can have, has a HUGE self inflated ego, i can go on and on about this man.
    I am soo glad the C's lost this wierd man. I love see him play, in a highlights video..It has noting to do with basketbal that i like too see. Iso sucks, specially in Boston. And now he is going to demoslish KD's legacy even more then his infamous trade did.
    So, good luck with your team Tucker, i wish them the best! (That's since the trade that make my Celtics kings again, they are always dear to my heart)

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    Love your videos man,
    But I’m sorry
    I was so high on Irving and Boston
    And finally I had to swallow a handful of takes to come to the realization

    There are two type of elite style players
    The MJ, Kobe, and it seems in our era Kawahi, or there’s the Curry’s of the world
    Either the cold blooded killer, or the inclusive yet heavily impactful star that allows others to shine next him.

    Irving is neither.
    And you will see in 375 days or so days from now, when the honey moon between him and KD is over, this Nets team will never win a title.

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    but his problem is he's too mentally deficient to consistently be good for his team. yes, he was good in his first year with boston, but they were still good when he was out and it caused him to have a meltdown the following year. just like 2 years prior when he couldn't stand being in lebron's shadow. so what do you think is gonna happen when he's in kd's shadow?
    imo he's this generation's iverson. if he can't do whatever he wants every single night, and doesn't get all the credit when the team succeeds, he's gonna become a problem

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    "the team is better with Kyrie."
    "Kyrie contributed to the bad chemistry"
    "Kyrie quit on the Cs."

    there's a certain level of hate/disrespect for Kyrie because of 2 of 3 statements above.
    those 2 statements are what formed the opinion about Kyrie as a player this year.
    and you can't fault people for thinking so because those 2 statements are true.

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    I’m a Kyrie doubter, I wouldn’t call myself a hater. But I can’t see how anyone could rationalize in their mind that Kyrie makes a team worse, the mans an iso God. He just needs to act more professional in general and start focusing more on team ball for when KD returns

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    I don't like the argument that top tier players are a bad fit because they play a certain way.
    You get paid $30m+ per year. Use your talent to play in a way that compliments your team. If you're that gifted, make it work. That's what you are paid for.

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